I don’t know why this was said. I had no problems at all installing Vista on a fresh system. Others have said likewise, with Vista being even less troublesome than XP in this area. For all it’s faults, Vista seems fine on installation.

What Microsoft isn’t telling us… Vista (Mojave) has no plug n’ play!

That’s right… No plug n’ play. Microsoft wanted software companies to pony up a fee to create and/or allow drivers to be made compatible for Vista. Most companies said “No way! I’m not paying a fee to have you design my drivers… No way!” There you have it the new number one reason why Vista is a failure, Microsoft corporate greed. Hang on to your Windows XP!

Kevin
Fort Wayne, IN

Your automobile analogy does not hold. Buy a new car and drive it. It does not take a series of lessons to do that. You just DO it. Also, if a new automobile needs fuel, you put ordinary fuel in it in the ordinary way. You don’t need special attachments and special fuel. The fuel doesn’t change so much in three years that you need to buy a new car and a new set of attachments for it. Learn to use one, you know how to use most ordinary automobiles. Sure, there are some special ones that need additional learning but that is not the point. For the ordinary person, a computer should be the same. If he wants to do ordinary things AND he already knows how to do it, he should be able to do it without having to get a bloody graduate degree and buy a totally maxed out new computer to boot.

The stupidity is built into the design of OS’s and the hardware it runs on and NOT in the user who has a life to live and simply wants to get some work done the way he knows how to do it. Not everyone is a bloody nerd who really doesn’t have a life outside of his computer.

Amen to that! I was so upset this morning when I came in after leaving Vista running an all-night job just to be welcomed by a message stating that Vista had run an important update that required an automatic restart of my computer.

It is my computer! I should be the boss of what it is doing, not Microsoft!
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You are “arrogance at its best”. Not Microsoft.

“They are stupid simply because they don’t know what you know, can’t do what you do, and want to do things their way rather than yours.”

I don’t think I ever told users to do things my way. I don’t them expect them to. If they want to go through the start menu to open an application or create a shortcut on the desktop, who am I to judge? I prefer keyboard shortcuts, but I never once told users: this is how I do it. I simply made the point that the average joe may not know the requirements of Vista, how it works, etc.

And those users aren’t stupid because they don’t know what I know. They’re simply uneducated. Computers are complicated pieces of machinery that like most things these days, need time, patience, and assistance to learn. Why do you think most schools nowadays require students to pass a computer competency test? It’s not easy to grasp, especially if that person isn’t technology minded. Not everyone is good at computers, nor knows how to use one. From your statements, I would assume in this matter you’re just as arrogant as Microsoft, however on the opposite side of the spectrum.

“The problem is correctly identified as stupidity but its not the user being stupid that’s the problem. The user simply wants to get some real work done with a minimum of hassle and is justifiably frustrated when he is forced to go through totally unnecessary hoops. THAT is not stupid.”

The same can be said about a motor vehicle. People buy a car with an automatic transmission because they don’t know how to drive a manual, or can’t be arsed with it. However, many average joes and janes don’t know how to check their transmission fluid or their oil, and end up taking their vehicles to dealerships for repairs and maintenance. It’s exactly like a computer. If there’s a problem, jane will often take her Dell to Geek Squad or a similar service. Like a vehicle, people should really learn how to check the basics of their computers, and learn what their getting into. I still abide by my argument, in that truly, many Vista haters simply hate Vista because of word of mouth. If someone sat down with them and taught user the basics of Vista, they’d be just as happy with it as XP, regarding the fact that they computer they buy can run it just as fast.